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With regards to how self indulgent it is, well, that's purely an objective point of view. Some people might argue that the music is not self indulgent, but rather lyrically speaks the feelings that a single member of it's listening audience may be feeling at any one time, but not be able to express. It's about emotional pain, rather than physical, like your 'fuck a dog til it bleeds, while you bite a chickens head off and trash your hotel room' rock and metal bands, or your 'fuck this bitch and slit her throat, then throw her in the boot of your car and drive it off a cliff' rap music, which, by the way IS the kind of music that offends me as a female. But, I'm sure you'll be the first to argue against what I've just said by claiming that 'not every metal band or rap artist writes about rape and beastiality'. In truth, no, they don't, but hopefully you can see my point about you generalising the music of my favourite bands. What's wrong with a bit of angst? It's been a part of music for centuries in some form or another. Can you honestly tell me that you didn't feel something when you heard The Beatle's Eleanor Rigby for the umpteenth time, and finally understood the lyrics and realised the misery that the two characters experienced throughout their desolate and lonely existances. Shit, would you want to live and die completely alone without ever having felt loved or missed? It's a fucking horrible thing to think about. And yet, here’s a band who have been proclaimed one of the best EVER rock bands, and they’re writing angst. If you look further into their catalogue, I’m sure you’ll find ‘self indulgent’ crap about breaking up (I call your name, With a Little Help from My Friends, We Can Work It Out, YESTERDAY!), sickening romantic slosh (I’m in love, It’s for you, etc), and yet, an enormous range of people seem to love them. But then you're welcome to your own views, and maybe this music (if you bothered listening to it) isn't for you. You've really got to get over this 'my taste in music is better than yours' attitude... If everyone was identifcal and liked the same things, the world would be a very fucking boring place. Last edited by VAxwell; 05-11-2005 at 06:00 PM. Reason: clarity and rushed typos | |||
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05-11-2005, 06:00 PM
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A lot of "art" is awfully self-indulgent, it isn't just musicians who are guilty of it. We just hear and see a lot more of musical wankery (and film wankery) because it is a much more readily transportable medium than canvas or clay. Because we all know a photograph can't capture the essence of the conflict between man and the beast depicted upon a flat piece of canvas...  Last edited by Mythor; 05-11-2005 at 06:03 PM. | ||
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I'm aware that I made a gross generalization as I don't listen to much current emo (I do however have a soft spot for the old Dischord stuff & the "emo violence" of In/Humanity is pretty damn amusing). As for being offensive to females, I vaguely remember reading something in "Punk Planet" or "Maximum Rock'n'Roll" many years ago by an apparent Ultra-Feminist, who thought that these lyrics implied that Women were incapable of leading their own life without a man. Maybe Emo has progressed since then. Alternatively, it may just be a case of my "Alzheimer's riddled brain" getting the details wrong! About the "thrashing about" stuff, am I confusing "Emo" with "Screamo"? Is there much of a difference between them? Quote:
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Both groups, as far as I can tell, have skinny members. However, as a bold generalisation, emo fans tend to be younger, often teenage skinny girls. Proportionately, there are more 'big' women who decide to goth up. I nearly got myself in a bad spot by saying to someone at a goth-friendly club that black wasn't that slimming. | |||
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I've seen a man in a corset. And he looked quite good, actually. Mind you, I haven't seen him look bad yet, lucky bastard. I can't find the corset pic, unfortunately. | ||
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13-11-2005, 04:41 PM
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EXTRA MCR TOUR DATES!! side shows kiddies, hurrah! 15th Dec: UNSW Roundhouse, SYDNEY. 16th Dec: HiFi Bar and Ballroom, MELBOURNE. 18th Dec: Arena Ent Cent, BRISBANE. wicked  | ||
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13-11-2005, 06:17 PM
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Tickets go on sale for the HiFi Show (OMG! IT'LL BE JUST LIEK COMFEST!) on Monday November 21st. (That's a WHOLE FUCKING WEEK AWAY!) From the Hifi e-mail newsletter: "My Chemical Romance are in the country to back up Green Day, the brilliant and boundary-leaping rock n rollers are locked in for a show at the Hi Fi on December 16. Boys can go and so should you. Tix on sale Monday Nov 21st." Any ideas how much? I was looking at the ticket prices for other bands on the hifi site, and they ranged between $20 - $40 with special events (New Years, etc) at around $60. I hope it won't dent my purse too much... *runs around excitedly* OH, and NO teenies! hehehe... So you can be sure that all of the emo girls and boys you shag in the unisex toilets are going to be of legal age. | ||
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13-11-2005, 06:27 PM
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anyone who can give me info on how to book tickets for the roundhouse gets special favours i checked the roundhouse website and a few ticket companies (ticketek, ticketmaster, moshtix) and found nothing, boo. Vax, shag an emo boy or girl or both for me okay? | ||
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13-11-2005, 07:44 PM
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Hailsy, is it possible to sign up to the roundhouse newsletter? I only found out (what little I did) from the hifi newsletter - there's nothing on the website at the moment... Maybe e-mail em? | ||
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15-11-2005, 11:35 PM
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From the frontier touring website: MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE SIDE SHOWS IN SYDNEY, MELBOURNE & BRISBANE If you’re looking for the latest buzz on the music scene, look no further than punk rock outfit My Chemical Romance. Having never graced our shores before, the band have kept their fans thirsty for a tour down under since their debut in 2003. In September fans heard the much anticipated news that My Chemical Romance would tour Australia as part of the two massive Green Day shows in Sydney and Melbourne this December. But now we can confirm that things have gotten even more exciting with the announcement that the band have agreed to perform sideshows in Sydney, Melbourne and…Brisbane! Recently named by The Guardian (UK) as ‘one of pop’s brightest prospects”, the band has been busy since their second album Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge was released in 2004. They received four MTV video music award nominations for their video Helena and single I’m not OK (I promise) has been a favourite on MTV and the radio. On top of that they have extensively toured the United States and Europe developing a superb live show. A five piece from New Jersey, the band is led by vocalist Gerard Way. Other members include bassist, Mikey Way (Gerard’s brother), guitarist Frank Iero, guitarist Ray Toro and Bob Bryar on drums. My Chemical Romance explode with unprecedented energy on stage and have an uncanny ability to tap into the passion of their audience. The music is intense and dark but at the same time highly energetic. Their live shows have earned the praise of critics worldwide. Rolling Stone said “New Jersey's My Chemical Romance deliver tightly-wound aggression in melodious ways” while Rock Review wrote, “full of energy and able to switch between solemn and comical at the flick of a switch, My Chemical Romance were a hard act to follow.” NME declared “tonight they leave [the] rest of the chasing pack choking on their dust…” and the Chicago Tribune added “Way, who prances like Mick Jagger and screams like a wood-chipper, was the consummate frontman, able to work the crowd into a frenzy with a simple wave of his arm.” Tickets go on sale Monday 21 November so make sure you don’t miss out! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE TOUR DATES DECEMBER 2005 Wednesday 14 with GREEN DAY Sydney Cricket Ground www.ticketek.com or Ticketek Phonecharge 132 849 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday 15 (All Ages) Roundhouse, Sydney www.ticketek.com or Ticketek Phonecharge 132 849 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday 16 (18+) The Hi-Fi, Melbourne www.thehifi.com.au The Hi-Fi 03 9654 7617 | Missing Link 03 9670 8208 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday 17 with GREEN DAY Melbourne Telstra Dome www.ticketmaster.com.au Ticketmaster 136 100 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sunday 18 (All Ages) Arena, Brisbane www.arenaonline.com.au Arena 07 3367 1126 www.rockinghorse.net Rocking Horse 07 3229 5360 www.skinnysmusic.com.au Skinny’s 07 3229 2389 www.ticketek.com or Ticketek Phonecharge 132 849 | ||
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15-11-2005, 11:45 PM
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*sprays herself with teenie repellant* roundhouse, here i come!!
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16-11-2005, 12:07 AM
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sweetie... isn't the roundhouse an over 18's venue? Goddamn I'm looking forward to the intimacy of the hifi! *grins* Btw, I was watching the scardies dvd yesterday, and there was a shot of the stage, and you and me were in the foreground for a good couple of minutes. lol... We were dancing with Eddie Perfect during Tim Minchin's song and the lights were on us. | ||
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16-11-2005, 05:08 PM
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