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Draco doesn't die....

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Old 25-07-2007, 02:02 AM   #16
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Draco doesn't die.

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Old 25-07-2007, 11:03 AM   #17
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I'm glad Harry, Hermione and Ron lived. It would've been gutless for JK to have killed them. She opened herself up to ridicule by not doing so, but the book is a thousand times better for it, despite what the critics will undoubtedly say...
I got a little concerned with the whole, "You've got to go let Voldemort kill you" angle but the maaaaaaagic won through in the end. Hooray!

Draco didn't die, Sammy. Harry walks past him and his folks on the way up to Dumbledore's office. Not only that he's in the "Nineteen Years Later" section, sending his son Scorpius (HARVEY!) off to school.

Still a little weirded out by Harry and Ginny, happy that Ron and Hermione finally got together (it's only been obvious since, like, Book 1 :P ) and was it just me or was it a little odd that there was some swearing in this one? Or borderline swearing? "Effing" and "BITCH", for example. Appropriately used but not sure the parents are going to be overly happy...

And most quotable quote of the whole book goes to Hermione: "OK, Ron, come here so I can do you..."

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Old 25-07-2007, 01:29 PM   #18
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Old 25-07-2007, 09:49 PM   #19
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i loved it and hated it in fairly equal amounts. the fact that my heart felt it was going to jump from my chest the whole time i was reading it made me love it. the fact that i have a ridiculous amount of unanswered questions AND THAT FUCKING EPILOGUE made me hate it.

i also think jkr has issues with mourning. the whole damned series is about death and what, we only get a chance to mourn one character properly, dumbledore in book 6? no, wtf. i get that she couldn't've put mourning in while the war was on, but there is such an insanely big and uncomfortable emotional jump from war to nineteen years later. there needed to be at least another chapter in between "well, snake eyes is dead, how about a quiet life?" and "hey, what are the most twee things we can name our brats?". mourning! i wanted tears! i wanted to actually realise that remus and tonks were dead, rather than see them flashing deadlishly through potter's brain and then having remus and his hot ghost boyfriend pop up in a forest. i mean, i can accept fred's death a little more coz at least he was avenged, you know? but i wanted to have my heart break for george right there on the page, rather than have to imagine it for myself. i mean, she's left the fodder for suicidal!george fic wide open, which is kinda nice, but i wanted more out of it than what she gave me.

also, plotholes a'go-go. how the fuck does narcissa know that harry's not dead before he replies?! and does voldy suddenly decide to trust people at the most critical moment of his existence? coz really, a little legilimens action would've been helpful there. unless ak'ing potter again just set off a groundhog day kinda thing. heh. that would've been cool.
dumbledore: you're back again?!
harry: ...i did something wrong i guess?
dumbledore: well shit kid, i wasn't expecting this. um. right.

also, does the book ever say that voldy knew he made an accidental horcrux out of harry? coz if he never knew, then, to the best of his knowledge, he'd only made 6 horcrii. if it wasn't for the epilogue with extra cheese, this would've fuelled my hopes for an 8th book.

how lily's letter, written after sirius fled grimmauld place, ends up in sirius's bedroom is never explained either. i like to think remus kept it and brought it to the house to make it feel more homely, but that's probably a little omgmarried! of me to be thinking that. regardless, never explained.

i kinda get why neville didn't get to off bella (had to be a gryff to get the sword to slay nagini and everyone's only allowed one awesome thing each book), and while cranky!molly is probably the most amazing and hilarious thing ever, i'm still not quite sure why she got the honour. if not neville, i would've liked it to have been remus, but i think that my otp is showing there (push my boyfriend through a curtain? i kill you dead!)...besides, he was also kinda dead by then i think. oh well. molly just seemed an odd choice. maybe george would've been better. maybe jkr has a thing for catfights.

SPEAKING OF CATS! OMG MCGONAGALL'S PATRONII i didn't know you could make more than one patronus at a time! and her kitties had GLASSES! oh man, when i die, i wanna come back as mcgonagall's patronii

albus/grindewald otp, you guys. total beffy manlove, right there. when jkr says albus defeated grindewald, you totally know what that means, right? *obligatory wand-in-your-pocket joke goes here*

the epilogue, as much as it drove me crazy, also brought up an interesting point - i don't think hugo was ever referred to as being specifically one of ron and hermione's kids. the phrase 'disinherit' has me completely stumped. also, because i am rolling with the homo tonight, is it just me or does victoire sound like victor with a french accent? teddy caught the gay from his dad, n'aww (and yeah, the 'e' on the end makes it female, i know, but still. my ears don't lie. and my otp is dead and having hot gay ghost sex, so alive!slash is squealed at wherever i can find it)

i LOVED the part where ron stormed out. another one of my issues with this book was that noone betrayed anyone - we expected everyone to act as they did, for the sides we expected them to be on - but ron came the closest to just going "fuck this shit, i'm sick of you and your silly quest!" and piking out. while dumbledore expected it, ron's always kinda been the 'i'm scared, but i'm there for you' kinda guy. he flipped it completely in this one. loved it.

remus flipped too, and that was a bit hot. him attacking harry gave me bunnies about this undiscovered side of remus's personality, since he's always been presented as the polite, sensible, bookish one with a fondness for chocolate. not so polite when you're kicking the arse of the chosen one for giving you lip, eh?

and oh wow, wormtail's death was probably the most incredible thing ever. snape's death would be a close second. super convenient of voldy to use nagini - it shows both voldy's gutlessness to ak his finest soldier and provides a handy plot device all in one! awesome

i'm really kinda annoyed at voldy's death though. harry finally had the chance to slay the motherfuck out of someone, but instead, voldy dies by rebound? oh man. i understand the purity of harry never hurting anyone needlessly, but jesus. avada kedavra > expelliarmus any day.

i may've tearied up over hedwig. i was reading it at work on my lunchbreak and hedwig just snuffed it so suddenly...i spent the next four hours going "wahh, hedwig!" to myself.

who would've thought umbridge would've turned out to be EVIL?! like, properly evil! book five just made her out to be a real bitch and evil to children, but in this book, she was death eater kinda evil! dude. sucks that her patronus has to be a cat as well.

snape's patronus, you guys. i think my heart broke at that point.

really wanted to find out what happened to the dursleys and everything. ALSO OMG remember book five? and dumbly's howler to petunia? "remember my last"? IS IT JUST ME OR WAS THAT NEVER EXPLAINED?! i mean, obviously we got lily saying that tuney wrote to dumbly and dumbly wrote back saying no hogwarts for you, but he can't've also said "oh hey, your sister's gonna have a kid and the kid will have to fight evil and your sister and her hubby will die in a bunch of green light and you have to keep the kid coz my spell in 10 years time says so". no. no explanation *cry*

and jkr also said that someone will learn how to do magic later in life. maybe she reneged on that one, coz i can't remember anything like that happening. we got ron faking his way into being a parselmouth though, that was kinda sweet

ron! hermione! MAKING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF A WARZONE. harry! ginny! MAKING OUT FOR BIRTHDAY PRESENTS! oh you guys and your rampant teenage horniness!

i think that's all i can remember for now. if i've fucked up at all, lemme know and i'll...go read the canon again. properly. instead of reading hot gay ghost sex fanfic. what?

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Old 25-07-2007, 11:20 PM   #20
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Thats a lot of opinions there Hails

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Old 26-07-2007, 02:50 AM   #21
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i'm good like that *beam*

naw, i'm just obsessed is all...this book has been my life since just before i turned 17 and it's taught me an insane amount of things and it's held me together sometimes. to rip off marilyn manson, it's my personal jesus *s* which is why it's so frustrating when everything doesn't add up as smoothly as i need it to, especially considering there's no 8th book i can look to to explain everything for me.

there might be an encyclopaedia though *purrs* that'll give me all the answers i'll ever need and all the canon i need to ignore when reading the pr0n *happysigh*

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Old 26-07-2007, 03:41 PM   #22
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i have to say a resounding yes to all of that Hails. except the epilogue. i liekd the epilogue. although i cried in that too. i'm a pussy. I jumped on the POtter bandwagon pretty late, but ooh, i thought it was a near perfect ending. In hindsight, I liked all the boring wandering about with one shitty horcrux and no plan.

I loved that they didnt have a plan to rely on, that they had to wing it.

My first teary moment was when harry's all 'i dont think you guys should come you dont understadn the danger' and hermiones all, i sent my parents to australia with new personalities so they dont know i exist'. awesome.

also, i thought ron's present to harry, where he goes 'and its not all about wandwork' was hilarious.

many many many tears in this book. many.

and i know lotsa people have bitched about it being too crammed in the end, and tha pacing being off. but i disagree. the slow slow gradual sometimes dull buildup, then the orgasmic fearful explosion of action, then the warm sunny afterglow. lovely.

im gonna wait a little while before i read it again though i think. And i love loev love Dumbledores' back story. how he could still be respected, even though his motives were kinda dubious and his somewhat callous attitude towards Harry's life 'in the bigger picture' and his ethnocentric perspectives on wizards over humans, but still explaining why he was such a nice headmaster.

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Old 26-07-2007, 04:24 PM   #23
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Heh, I'd forgotten the wandwork bit. That was a good line too.

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Old 27-07-2007, 12:27 AM   #24
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It was interesting how when harry 'died' in doing so he did what his mother Lily did for him for everyone else. That was kinda sweet.

Neville killing Nagini was a great thing to have happened. He deserved to have that moment but I admit him killing Bellatrix would have worked alittle better. Revenge for his parents torture.

Also JK killed all those significantly protecting Harry before he faced Voldemort. Sirius, Albus, Harry's parents, but she missed the other two members of the Golden Trio, The Weasleys and a few others yet Harry's most hated teacher whom it's revealed is not such a bad guy and certainly never seemed to be protecting Harry dies because.....Voldemort thought he was the master of the elder wand? Doesn't make much sense.

Sorry but after all that angst, pain, torture, etc surely he deserves to live?

Or is it just me. Who feels a little sorry for him.

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Old 27-07-2007, 01:38 PM   #25
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All I kept thinking at the end was 'how cool is Alan Rickman gonna be in the film?' hehe
The character of Snape has now become my favourite.
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Old 31-07-2007, 03:34 PM   #26
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I've read it now.

I have to say I'm a little surprised & saddened that many of the spoilers I accidentally saw before the book came out were accurate.

What nasty people.

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Old 31-07-2007, 08:36 PM   #27
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Rowling shared with fans, many of whom said they'd read the final book several times in the last week, where she imagines their favorite characters went after the series' conclusion.

SPOILER ALERT: Those who do not wish to know what happens to the characters after the book ends should stop reading here.

Rowling said the world was a sunnier, happier place after the seventh book and the death of Voldemort.

Harry Potter, who always voiced a desire to become an Auror, or someone who fights dark wizards, was named head of the Auror Department under the new wizarding government headed by his friend and ally, Kingsley Shacklebolt.

His wife, Ginny Weasley, stuck with her athletic career, playing for the Holyhead Harpies, the all-female Quidditch team. Eventually, Ginny left the team to raise their three children -- James, Albus and Lily -- while writing as the senior Quidditch correspondent for the wizarding newspaper, the Daily Prophet.

Harry's best friend Ron Weasley joined his brother, George, as a partner at their successful joke shop, Weasley's Wizard Wheezes. Hermione Granger, Ron's wife and the third person of the series' dark wizard fighting trio, furthered the rights of subjugated creatures, such as house elves, in the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures before joining the magical law enforcement squad. The couple had two children -- Rose and Hugo.

Luna Lovegood, Harry's airily distracted friend with a love for imaginary animals who joins the fight against Voldemort in the Order of the Phoenix, becomes a famous wizarding naturalist who eventually marries the grandson of Newt Scamander, author of "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them."

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